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Em2122 · 14/02/2022 09:37

I always fail at making cottage pie. I reduce the stock but it doesn't really thicken it just boils away . What am I doing wrong?
I use flour on the mince, I use 5% mince is that the reason why?

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SilenceOfThePrams · 14/02/2022 10:07

Bung in some bisto.

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Bushkin · 14/02/2022 10:29

Bisto powder, the original one in the box

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PinkyU · 14/02/2022 10:33

Caramelise some seasoned onion until soft and translucent then add some flour/corn starch to coat them, then add it to your cottage pie mix and stir.

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Frenchfancy · 14/02/2022 10:37

And don't add any milk to your mash.

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CornishGem1975 · 14/02/2022 10:38

Don't put as much liquid in the first place!

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purplesequins · 14/02/2022 10:38

dissolve a little corn starch (a teaspoon or so) in cold water and add to the stock.

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StripyOnesie · 14/02/2022 10:40

Cornflour and proper mince with fat in it.

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friggingnora · 14/02/2022 10:41

You need a thickening agent. Gravy granules will do it and add flavour too, or mix flour and cold water until smooth then add a bit at a time to your mince.

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loopylindi · 14/02/2022 10:42

cook some red lentils with your mince. They will cook down to nothing but thicken the mixture and add extra (cheaper) protein

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HopingForMyRainbowBaby · 14/02/2022 10:45

My ex mil had the biggest fail at making a cottage pie. She forgot to put the gravy in! Dished up a watery anaemic looking dish which we all had to choke down out of politeness Gravy doesn't thicken cottage pie | Mumsnet (1)
I thickened mine up the other week by chucking in a couple of teaspoons of gluten free plain flour mixed in with some cold water. Forgot to get cornflour but it worked just as well.

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ErrolTheDragon · 14/02/2022 10:48

Sounds like you're just not using enough flour. I prefer thickening with wheat flour at the start but if it's still too thin when you've added the stock, mix a bit of cornflour with cold water and blend that in.

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mykitchenruler · 14/02/2022 10:51

My cottage pie doesn't have flour? Tomato paste as thickening agent with the meat.

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Talipesmum · 14/02/2022 10:51

@ErrolTheDragon

Sounds like you're just not using enough flour. I prefer thickening with wheat flour at the start but if it's still too thin when you've added the stock, mix a bit of cornflour with cold water and blend that in.

Agree with this. My gravy got way better when I realised you actually need to put more flour in at the early stage.
How much flour are you adding for eg a 500g pack of mince?

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Daisydoesnt · 14/02/2022 10:52

OP is your stock homemade with roasted bones? If it’s not or if it’s shop bought then boiling/ reducing it won’t thicken it. You need the gelatin from bones to thickens it as you reduce it down.

I second bunging in a tablespoon of Bisto as a quick fix.

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MyDcAreMarvel · 14/02/2022 10:52

Use bisto , stock isn’t gravy.

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iklboo · 14/02/2022 10:56

Bisto or thickening granules are good for this, but cornflour will do as well.

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Rayna37 · 14/02/2022 11:20

I don't use any flour but I also don't add any stock or water? Would never have occurred to me to do so! Just the meat and veg is fine.

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MaizeAmaze · 14/02/2022 12:02

What type of stock? Just put less water in?

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asnippersdream · 14/02/2022 12:05

@CornishGem1975

Don't put as much liquid in the first place!

This is the correct answer.

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ODFOx · 14/02/2022 12:12

How are you making the meat layer O? If you share your recipe we may be able to snag it for you so you don't have to use gravy granules/bisto etc.

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CornishGem1975 · 14/02/2022 12:50

I don't get it @asnippersdream I never try and thicken my recipes ever, I just reduce the liquid content in the first place. If it always comes out too wet, use less stock!

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ivykaty44 · 19/02/2022 10:46

I use delia smith recipe, but just use normal mash on the top of the pie, its the best recipe ive used and stick to it now for some years. I use mince beef for the meat

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BurbageBrook · 19/02/2022 10:47

You’re using too much liquid, you need less stock and a higher meat ratio.

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Eminybob · 19/02/2022 10:50

I add about 2 tablespoons of flour after I’ve browned the mince and veg, thickens up nicely with no need for gravy granules.

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How do you thicken up cottage pie? ›

Flour power

A classic thickening method for a classic dish. A few tablespoons of flour, cooked-out so you can't taste it, turns a thin sauce into a velvety gravy of dreams.

What happens if gravy isn't thickening? ›

If your gravy is on the skimpy side, you can thicken it quickly with flour or cornstarch. But don't add your thickener directly to the gravy, which will create lumps. Instead, try stirring in three or four tablespoons of flour or cornstarch into a small amount of cold water until you have a smooth paste.

Why is my cottage pie runny? ›

Residual moisture from the potatoes will drip into the beef below as it cooks, and too much of it will cause the potatoes to eventually sink. Aside from ridding your potatoes of excess moisture before you mash them, it also helps to cool the beef down, BBC Good Food shares.

How do you thicken gravy for a pie? ›

The three main thickening agents for gravies are flour, cornflour and arrowroot. The first two are normally used in savoury dishes while arrowroot tends to be used in sweet dishes – that said, arrowroot will work in a savoury dish as it has no flavour.

Why isn't my pie filling thickening? ›

Bake the fruit pie at a high temperature.

If you don't bake your pie at a high enough temp your thickener doesn't get to the necessary temperature for a long enough time to thicken your filling. Also, that high temp is needed to get your pie crust light & flaky.

How do you thicken runny cottage cheese? ›

Place a fine-holed sieve or one with a large coffee filter in it over a bowl, pour in the cottage cheese and leave the liquid to drain out into the bowl that is the whey; the thicher portion in the sieve can be left in large curds, or smashed with a fork, to make a finer curd.

Why is my shepherd's pie oily? ›

After cooking the beef, onion, and herbs, be sure to drain the grease out of the pan. Otherwise, you will find yourself with a greasy shepherd's pie. Stir well. Especially when adding the flour and tomato paste.

What's the difference between cottage pie and shepherd's pie? ›

The Difference Between Shepherd's Pie and Cottage Pie

Cottage pie uses minced lean ground beef as its base and beef broth as its gravy. Shepherd's pie, on the other hand, uses ground lamb, and the juices of the minced lamb become the gravy for this comfort food.

How to stop mash sinking cottage pie? ›

To stop the mash sinking into the filling, allow the meat to cool before topping with the mashed potato. Freeze in individual ovenproof dishes for an easy meal for one. For a really crisp, golden topping, flash under the grill for a few mins before serving.

Is gravy better with flour or cornstarch? ›

Browning adds more flavor to the gravy and gets rid of the raw flour taste. You're basically making a roux. We find that a flour-based gravy holds up better and reheats better later, which is why we tend to prefer using flour over cornstarch to make gravy unless we have a guest who is eating gluten-free.

How to thicken gravy without cornstarch or flour? ›

Gums: You can also use vegetable gums, such as xanthan gum or guar gum, to thicken sauces. Xanthan gum and guar gum are very powerful, so use minimal amounts—too much can make the sauce slimy or unpleasantly chewy. 7. Potato starch: You can use potato starch in place of cornstarch with a one-to-one ratio.

What is a good thickener for pie filling? ›

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ThickenerFor 1 cup of fruitFor one 9" pie (8 cups of fruit)
All-purpose flour2 1/2 tsp6 tbsp + 2 tsp
Instant ClearJel2 1/2 tsp6 tbsp + 2 tsp
Cornstarch2 1/2 tsp6 tbsp + 2 tsp
Quick-cooking tapioca1 1/2 tsp1/4 cup
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Is cornstarch or flour better for thickening pie? ›

Cornstarch makes for a shiny, glossy filling. A little goes a long way because it has twice the gelling power of flour. Flour thickens nicely but leaves more of a matte finish. You'll need to use twice as much as you would with cornstarch.

How do you make a pie less soupy? ›

Experiment with different thickeners

If you usually use flour to thicken your apple pie and it's not doing the job, try something different: cornstarch, tapioca, and arrowroot are other established fruit pie thickeners. For more on specific thickeners and how to use them, see our Pie Filling Thickeners Guide.

How do you thicken cottage cheese frosting? ›

– Secondly, you can add in some cornstarch to thicken up the frosting. I would add in about 2 tablespoons max, otherwise it can start to impact the taste/texture of your frosting. – You can also add in meringue powder or arrowroot powder. About 2 teaspoons of each per batch of frosting.

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