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OdinsLoveChild · 22/10/2016 16:49

I can make lovely pastry, gorgeous jams, bake beautiful cakes and pickles galore.

I cannot however get my potato to stay on top of my cottage pie. How do I stop it sinking? I really don't know where im going wrong. I've tried with butter, without butter. Piped on the top and spooned on top. On top of hot filling and cold filling, put on hot and on cold. What am I doing wrong? It just sinks to the bottom, disintegrates and turns into slop. Sinking potato on cottage pie | Mumsnet (1)

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Pippin8 · 22/10/2016 16:50

I'm not expert buy I would say your filling isn't thick enough or your potato needs bulking out with cheese.

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Sparklesilverglitter · 22/10/2016 16:51

I'd say either your mash or cottage pie sauce isn't thick enough.

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suze28 · 22/10/2016 16:53

Do you add milk to your mashed potato? I've found that mash made with no milk added stays on top far better.

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Artandco · 22/10/2016 16:54

Is your sauce really runny?

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RNBrie · 22/10/2016 16:54

I'd say it's not a mash problem but a mince problem. There should be very little liquid left after you've cooked the mince. Also it helps to wait until the mince has cooled down before putting the mash on top.

Do a spoonful around the edges then fill in the middle, make sure you don't have any gaps.

If it makes you feel any better, I can bake anything too... Except flapjacks. They come out like little bricks. Every single time!!

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PinkiePiesCupcakes · 22/10/2016 16:57

Use a spatula and don't put it on top of the filling but scrape it on the edge of the dish, iyswim.
Get it to adhere to the dish side first and then fork it level.

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flumpybear · 22/10/2016 16:57

Mince problem I think too - i usually thinks clean my gravy, but leave most of the gravy in a saucepan and add it after (so don't put the pie itself)

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MrsNuckyThompson · 22/10/2016 16:58

Yup. Think your mince is too runny.

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OdinsLoveChild · 22/10/2016 16:58

I don't add milk to the potatoes no. Maybe the sauce is too thin then. It's not very firm but it's not loose either (it doesn't spread across the plate on serving) . Maybe chuck some more flour in it to make it very thick.

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Hissy · 22/10/2016 17:44

You have to let the mince cool first before putting on the potato.

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Mindtrope · 22/10/2016 18:06

Solids won't sit on top of liquids. Your mince mixture should be fairly dry. Moist, but no gravy. The mince mixture needs to be fairly thick. If not then I don;t hesitate to pass through a sieve or colander. Much easier to assemble, retain the sauce- everyone loves extra gravy, especially if pimped up with extra fried onion or mustard.

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exWifebeginsat40 · 22/10/2016 18:45

finish the mince off by stirring a spoonful of cornflour in. let it cool in the dish until it gets a 'skin' on it. tiny spoonfuls of mash and bob's your dad's brother.

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Thinkingblonde · 22/10/2016 19:01

I fry the onions then add the mince with dash of Daddies brown sauce I don't add any other liquid, any liquid from the juices is drained off and reserved to make gravy with. The potato topping is quite thick and stiff. I don't add a lot of milk or butter. Let the mince cool and spoon the potato over the top. A blob on each corner and one in the middle then spread it out.

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Hissy · 23/10/2016 07:47

If you cool the meat, the fat and gravy solidify...

That's how professional kitchens do it.

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raspberryrippleicecream · 04/11/2016 22:15

Jamie Oliver on his programme tonight put a layer of frozen peas in top of the mince before adding the potato, and said it was to stop sinking mash!

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Indecisivejo · 07/11/2016 18:18

It sinks if the mince mixture is still hot when u put the mash on, leave it to cool first

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iphilomela · 12/11/2016 09:48

The trick I use is to place the mince layer in the bottom of the dish you are going to cook it in and then place it in the fridge. Leave to cool thoroughly! You will know it has cooled long enough, when there appears to be what looks like a 'skin' on top of the mince. This 'skin' is strong enough to support the weight of the mashed potato. Balance small blobs of mash evenly over the mince and then spread using a fork. The ridges left by the fork in the potato will go nice and crispy when cooked in the oven.

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SlottedSpoon · 12/11/2016 10:13

I always ladle off most of the sauce/gravy before topping the meat mixture with potato, and serve it separately afterwards because you need the meat mixture to be quite 'sturdy' and bordering on dry. Also the potato - it can be difficult to spread if it's too thick, but will immediately sink if it's too loose - especially if there is a lot of gravy in the dish. I sort of dollop the potato on in blobs rather than trying to spread it on, then just lightly blend the very top layer to prevent gaps.

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Lenazabaglione · 12/11/2016 11:03

I use a trick from Delia Smith! I steam the potatoes rather than boil. When they are cooked, drain then cover the steamer with a clean tea towel for 5 minutes or so to absorb the steam. Mash with butter, no milk. Works a treat and no sinking.

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Sgtmajormummy · 12/11/2016 11:10

You could put a layer of wafer-thin raw potatoes on top of the filling. They would cook quickly because they're sitting in the gravy, but still make a shelf for your mashed potatoes.

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MissMargie · 12/11/2016 11:12

I gently lay spoonfuls of mash over the mince, then lightly spread across with a flicking motion with the fork, joining the spoonfuls into a layer.
I also use a dish sized to have potato slightly above dish so it goes crispy. Think oven is 180 degrees or higher

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OlennasWimple · 12/11/2016 11:13

RNBrie - try cooking your flapjacks for five minutes less

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Rafeontherun · 12/11/2016 11:15

Mince is too runny

I do 500ml of stock to 500g of mince and simmer for 40 mins. And thicken with cornstarch mixed with water. It's lovely and thick.

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orangebird69 · 12/11/2016 11:25

Only butter in the mash. The filling doesn't have to be cold. My trick is to chuck in some gravy granules into the meat mix - really thickens it up and adds extra beefy flavour.

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ozlander · 01/07/2018 09:27

I finely shred cabbage and fry it with onion flakes until just about cooked. Spread that over the top then the spud. Works ok.

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Why does my potato sink in shepherd's pie? ›

How do you keep potatoes from sinking in shepherd's pie? Let the beef layer cool before you top it with the mashed potatoes. This is the number one way to keep your potatoes from sinking. Another tip is to not make your potatoes too runny because firmer mashed potatoes stay more level while baking.

How to stop mash sinking? ›

To stop the mash sinking into the filling, allow the meat to cool before topping with the mashed potato. Freeze in individual ovenproof dishes for an easy meal for one. For a really crisp, golden topping, flash under the grill for a few mins before serving.

Why does my mash sink? ›

Residual moisture from the potatoes will drip into the beef below as it cooks, and too much of it will cause the potatoes to eventually sink. Aside from ridding your potatoes of excess moisture before you mash them, it also helps to cool the beef down, BBC Good Food shares.

Why does my cottage pie go sloppy? ›

I'd say either your mash or cottage pie sauce isn't thick enough. Do you add milk to your mashed potato? I've found that mash made with no milk added stays on top far better.

What are waterlogged potatoes? ›

One important thing to know about potatoes is that water is their enemy. Yep, it cooks the potatoes, but if they spend too long bathing, they'll become waterlogged. And no matter what type of potato you're boiling, waterlogged potatoes will be grainy, crumbly and mushy with little flavor (it'll leach into the water).

Why does my shepherd's pie fall apart? ›

How do you keep shepherd's pie from falling apart? Make sure your casserole dish is the right size. You should also have firm mashed potatoes so it won't fall apart when you're serving. As you put the topping on, don't press too hard, using a gentle touch to smooth it out.

Why is my cottage pie dry? ›

The right consistency for a meat sauce that mash can sit on can leave the finished pie on the dry side. So we've gone with a jug of extra gravy because, let's face it, who doesn't love extra gravy? See the full recipe for our next level cottage pie.

How to make shepherd's pie less runny? ›

Thicken the Filling – Stir in salt, pepper, and flour. Add beef stock and Worcestershire sauce. Bring the liquid to a simmer and cook until thickened, 4 to 5 minutes.

How do you fix too wet mashed potatoes? ›

You can use what you have on hand: Flour, cornstarch, or powdered milk are all solid options that are probably already in your pantry. Potato flour and potato starch would work as well. Stir in the thickening agent gradually, about a tablespoon at a time, until the potatoes have reached your desired consistency.

Why are my mashed potatoes wet? ›

Runny potatoes can happen for a few different reasons. Too much liquid: This is the most common reason. In the mashing process you may have added too much milk or broth. Boiled too long: Boiling your potatoes for too long can make them water-logged, which (you guessed it) can contribute to runny mashed potatoes.

What happens if you mash too long? ›

Beer can not be mashed for also long, however if the wort is permitted to being in the mash for over twenty-four hrs, it might start to sour. There is no factor in leaving a beer to mash for longer than 120 mins given that a lot of the enzyme conversion in mashing is completed in the initial 60 mins of mashing.

How liquid should shepherd's pie be? ›

The key to a good shepherds pie is not to have the meat and gravy too liquidy or the mash will just sink into it, so make sure the mince mixture is nice and thick, just keep it on the heat until its just right.

Why is my pie sinking? ›

Any number of things can contribute to a slumping crust. Maybe your recipe uses an extra-high amount of shortening or butter, or you rolled the crust too vigorously, or you didn't let it rest and chill before baking. Perhaps you used the wrong size pan, or not enough filling.

Is shepherd's pie Irish or English? ›

The dish originates from the British Isles, but some might argue that it is an Irish dish by origin. The name "Shepherd's Pie" was first recorded in an 1877 cookbook. In this same cookbook, it was noted that the dish was of Scottish origin. During the period between the 18th and 19th centuries, money was very tight.

How do you keep potatoes from dissolving in soup? ›

To fix this and keep your potatoes intact, pour a little bit of vinegar (white, wine or cider) in cooking water. It works like magic! Don't forget to rinse your potatoes afterward.

How do you fix waterlogged potatoes? ›

Try draining the cooked water off in a sieve or colander and then placing back on the stove to cook out some of the extra moisture, just a couple of minutes. Mash with a masher (or a ricer which makes great non lumpy spuds). Always add melted butter or the liquid when it is warm and do this a little at a time.

Why do potatoes shrink in the oven? ›

Potatoes shrink when cooked because they lose. water content. ) Uncooked potatoes are made of. about 20% of dry mass and ~80% water.)

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